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Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> Thu, 06 October 2022 17:49 UTC

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From: Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com>
To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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> On 10/06/2022 1:42 PM EDT Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> > On 10/06/2022 1:23 PM EDT Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 10:18 AM Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > > On 10/06/2022 9:35 AM EDT Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Moderators, can you please keep this on topic for the last-call list.
> > > This
> > > > is not relevant to the PR-Action.
> > > >
> > > > Incidentally, Jay Daley is not the "leader of the IETF'. If the IETF
> > > could
> > > > be said to have a leader, it would be the IETF Chair, which Jay is not.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes Jay Daley is the Executive Director of the IETF.  Can he/did he
> > > initiate this PR action?  I think it's important to know the initiating
> > > area director in something as serious as this.
> > >
> > 
> > It seems that perhaps you don't understand the IETF structure. You might
> > find RFC 8711 useful in this context:
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8711.html
> > 
> > Jay is the Executive Director of the IETF LLC, which has nothing to do with
> > being an Area Director. He does not sit on the IESG and cannot initiate a
> > PR Action.
> > 
> > -Ekr
> 
> 
> See, this just goes to show how little I know about the IETF.  I guess someone might have to read 8710 RFCs to get to that one.  I'm still in the four thousands.
> 
> -- 
> 


But back to my point, We All deserve to know who the accuser is.  It's only fair.

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