Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Sun, 02 October 2022 23:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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   Oh I see. So you express an opinion in this venue and then say that
you don't think it would be productive to justify it in this venue.
Uh-huh. How convenient.

   Dan.

On 10/2/22 4:31 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> As I said, I don't think it's really necessary to unpack this, and I 
> don't believe it will be productive to engage with you on this topic 
> in this venue. I'll leave others to draw their own conclusions about 
> whether your characterization was in good faith.
>
> -Ekr
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 4:25 PM Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:
>
>
>     On 10/2/22 4:02 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 3:49 PM Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         But in many ways, none of that is really applicable here.
>>         Once we reach
>>         a point that someone's reaction to the Executive Director of
>>         the IETF
>>         asking for community input on in-person meetings is to
>>         respond with a
>>         hostile mini-rant about a tenuously related tweet that he found
>>         elsewhere, 
>>
>>
>>     Not that it actually changes the situation, but as it happens, the
>>     mini-rant in question arguably misrepresents, the tweet, which
>>     reads:
>>
>>        .@MaraGay "Masking remains an act of solidarity & respect for
>>        vulnerable people, that includes people w/ disabilities, w/
>>     chronic
>>        conditions like asthma, as well as for hard-hit communities like
>>        native & black communities especially, Hispanic communities"
>>
>>     In the email you are referring to, this was characterized as:
>>
>>        Well the other thing to keep in mind about masking is that "it
>>     remains an
>>        act of solidarity & respect" for... BIPOC (natch).
>>
>>     I don't think it's really necessary to unpack this, but suffice
>>     to say, this doesn't seem like a particularly good-faith reading
>>     of the tweet in question (whether you agree with said tweet or
>>     not).
>
>       OK Eric, what was bad-faith in that characterization? She was
>     including black, indigenous, and hispanic communties in her
>     listing of "vulnerable people" . Is that not BIPOC?
>
>       Dan.
>
>     -- 
>     "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to
>     escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
>

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escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius