Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> Fri, 30 September 2022 22:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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I fully support this action.  I am one of those who left ietf@ for obvious
reasons and would hope that this sort of action might make it a more useful
space in future.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 9:16 AM IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org> wrote:

> Following community feedback after various incidents, as documented below,
> the
> IESG has initiated a posting rights (PR) action that would restrict the
> posting
> rights of Dan Harkins, as per the procedures found in BCP 83 (RFC 3683).
> Specifically, his posting privileges to these lists would be suspended:
>
> * admin-discuss
> * gendispatch
> * ietf
> * terminology
>
> In the IESG's opinion, this individual has a history of sending emails
> that are
> inconsistent with the IETF Guidelines for Conduct (RFC 7154) and thereby
> "disrupt the consensus-driven process" (RFC 3683). Among these are
> contributions
> that:
>
> * Express racism in the form of denying, belittling, and ridiculing
> anti-racist
>   sentiment and efforts
>
> * Are rude and abusive, and often amount to insulting ridicule
>
> (Links to examples of such emails sent to the lists above during the last
> two
> years are provided at the end of this email.)
>
> Multiple attempts have been made to enter into a private discussion with
> this
> individual, both by IESG and community members, to communicate disquiet
> with his
> conduct on the lists. These attempts to restore respectful and courteous
> conduct
> on the lists have been rebuffed with communication that can be considered
> both
> antagonistic and hostile, and the pattern of behavior observed has
> continued.
>
> The IESG also notes that the following actions have already been taken in
> response to the individual's actions:
>
> * Two I-Ds were removed from the public archive due to their offensive
> nature:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-les-white-intersectional-dots
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-les-white-tls-preferred-pronouns
>   (following these links displays the tombstone notice explaining their
> removal)
>
> * His posting rights were restricted on the admin-discuss mailing list:
>
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/admin-discuss/ZANH2VPN-U8VMvvOWLb5l03FdCs/
>
> * A final public warning was issued on the gendispatch mailing list:
>
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/68a4amMa1aiaRUPzPGgXdiY9gHg/
>
> None of the attempts to discuss his participation style or warn the
> individual
> have led to any improvements. The IESG therefore believes that a PR action
> is
> the correct response to his continued problematic behavior across a number
> of
> different lists.
>
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 27 October 2022. Exceptionally,
> comments may
> be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. If sending private feedback to the IESG,
> please indicate if you would be open to having your comments anonymized and
> shared in a summary.
>
> Please note: Comments should be limited to the criteria described in BCP
> 83,
> notably on whether the individual in question has engaged in postings that
> are
> "unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject" in a manner
> disruptive enough to warrant this action.
>
> Lars Eggert
> IETF Chair, on behalf of the IESG
> –-
>
> Examples of problematic emails during the last two years include:
>
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/zdq3F0PV40Cyw5ooj0orOWaYyUw/
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/i-d7HlWgrkmrVlC7JZQSXDwIJCQ/
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/YhPI9zZ_3xfidt5V-ORRnET36yY/
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/B33zk8VfOYt4b4Cj-kIHXG3AXdg/
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/d3iDS4WNkCJA3aMFnX2HjP4tsps/
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/-On8AHrdnnCMlJOOyb1M1nlYMpk/
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/terminology/n6UMvDuYLKmmvpP1ajICFvf634M/
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/terminology/QCdjDbokmlARcwVqQ1TV3Rlz7eQ/
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/terminology/X6OF0MBKAzyLhYaAfAxS6srXRNw/
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/terminology/idJhG1MsLmKHyRlaAafcW2JF6Z8/
> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipsec/LoGSVatZ4EsYRq4K52rmvRZTndk/
> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/pl2lVqhtF4Z-0YuTjhCOmdyi1qE/
> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/DFgnF_j8py_eMBGI1IUFdMahTKw/
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/terminology/T3oCpY3BbTNLXWAWsCnFvahRLUQ/
> *
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/admin-discuss/xLuz4WTCm5ibIiMVN5ID8OWsCI0/
>
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