Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Sun, 02 October 2022 23:32 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 16:31:23 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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As I said, I don't think it's really necessary to unpack this, and I don't
believe it will be productive to engage with you on this topic in this
venue. I'll leave others to draw their own conclusions about whether your
characterization was in good faith.

-Ekr



On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 4:25 PM Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:

>
> On 10/2/22 4:02 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 3:49 PM Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> But in many ways, none of that is really applicable here. Once we reach
>> a point that someone's reaction to the Executive Director of the IETF
>> asking for community input on in-person meetings is to respond with a
>> hostile mini-rant about a tenuously related tweet that he found
>> elsewhere,
>
>
> Not that it actually changes the situation, but as it happens, the
> mini-rant in question arguably misrepresents, the tweet, which
> reads:
>
>    .@MaraGay "Masking remains an act of solidarity & respect for
>    vulnerable people, that includes people w/ disabilities, w/ chronic
>    conditions like asthma, as well as for hard-hit communities like
>    native & black communities especially, Hispanic communities"
>
> In the email you are referring to, this was characterized as:
>
>    Well the other thing to keep in mind about masking is that "it remains
> an
>    act of solidarity & respect" for... BIPOC (natch).
>
> I don't think it's really necessary to unpack this, but suffice
> to say, this doesn't seem like a particularly good-faith reading
> of the tweet in question (whether you agree with said tweet or
> not).
>
>
>   OK Eric, what was bad-faith in that characterization? She was
> including black, indigenous, and hispanic communties in her
> listing of "vulnerable people" . Is that not BIPOC?
>
>   Dan.
>
> --
> "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to
> escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
>
>