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Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Sun, 02 October 2022 17:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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On 10/2/22 10:32 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
> That is not the issue with Dan's inputs. He is captive to a political 
> ideology and world view that is antithetical to the objective of 
> creating an Internet that is for everyone.

   That is just wrong PHB. I don't know what political ideology you think
I subscribe to but I am committed to ensuring the Internet is for
everyone. What I object to is not treating people as individuals and
instead as representatives of a group and then working to ensure
equality of outcome for these groups. That is poison to society and
it is poison to the IETF.

   I welcome an apology from you.

   Dan.

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