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Re: USA dominion: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Sun, 26 July 2020 02:24 UTC

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> You might also want to consider that it isn't just a US majority, it's
> a white male US majority, which is also an issue IMHO.  The same
> applies for WG chairs etc.  Indeed, I would posit that the lack of
> diversity when it comes to gender is also a huge issue with the
> organization.

agree as an old white person of pallor who even has a grey beard

from my narrow view, isoc's have been the only focused and long term
efforts.  not sure about metrics for progress.

it may be interesting to see how much diversity a well announced
online meeting brings.  again, not sure about metrics.

randy

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