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Re: USA dominion: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Sat, 25 July 2020 16:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: USA dominion: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 12:16:29 -0400
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On Jul 25, 2020, at 10:09, Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> As I’ve stated previously on this list, I view “folks” as a trigger, as it imposes passive-aggressive patronising distancing, and it’s certainly not as inclusionary as you might think. A word best avoided, in my view.
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> This is an honest question: are you serious?  Are there others who feel this way?

I do.

In Canada “folks” is a term used by conservatives only to appeal / addres a
 the “common people”.

In Dutch, it reminds of volk, which reeks of nationalism.

Using the term to me feels like talking down to a group that you have power or control over.

That said, I understand a lot of people do not see or use it that way, and I can ignore it.

Paul

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