Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

[Leif Johansson <[e-mail]>]

On 2020-07-29 15:32, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020, at 21:39, Salz, Rich wrote:
>> Yes, some dismiss that as "virtue signaling." But being virtuous is a good thing :)
> 
> Virtue signalling is not synonymous with being virtuous.  Being virtuous is supporting a charity (modulo the goodness of the charity of course), virtue signalling is posing outside a charity for the
> perfect Instagram photo and the associated street cred.
> 
> It's possible to be both virtuous and give off signals about it of course.  To bring it back to the specific here:

often one gets in the way of the other tho

> 
>> I think providing a clear indication that we are trying to be inclusive is important..
> 
> It seems to be me that most of the debate in this thread boils down to: "is this effort is a clear signal that we're serious about trying to be inclusive rather than facile pandering to a particularly
> noisy political group?", and an associated "would publishing something like this be effective and attract people who want to make the Internet work better by producing high quality, relevant technical
> documents that influence the way people design, use, and manage the Internet?"

excellent summary of the whole thread