Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> Wed, 29 July 2020 12:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
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Salz, Rich wrote:

>      : But, considering that most other people, both blacks and whites,
>      : in US are enjoying Thriller, the Lord of the Rings, Star Wars
>      : and all the fantasies and FRPGs with such words of "dark lord",
>      : "black magician" and "dark side of force", there is no such
>      : culture in US to avoid saying black/dark with negative meaning.

> I am responding to the last line of this. It is factually incorrect.
> Others have asked you about this as well. I am a native-born
> American.

So?

As I said "most other people" and:

: There may be 1,000 or 1,000,000 such people in US.

I can't see your point that my points admitting noisy minority
can be "factually incorrect" by a single or thousands of
not-really-counter-examples of native-borns?

I believe most people in US, including blacks, are wise enough
to be able to enjoy saying "dark lord", "black magic", "blacklist",
"dark side of force", "blacklist", "master/slave flip flop" or
"dark web" without discriminating people with black skin of black
cloths, even though you might think they were less wise.

						Masataka Ohta