Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Carrick Bartle <cbartle891@icloud.com> Mon, 27 July 2020 14:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
From: Carrick Bartle <cbartle891@icloud.com>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 07:33:47 -0700
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I agree.



> On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:02 AM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> 
> On Jul 27, 2020, at 09:10, Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:
>> 
>> "harm" not found.
> 
> Unfortunately, this thread has already harmed the IETF community. Not only by showing a lack of empathy to try and be more inclusive when the costs are low, but also by showing how toxic discussions can get at IETF.
> 
> unfortunately, cultural change is very slow.
> 
> Paul