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Re: USA dominion: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Sun, 26 July 2020 06:26 UTC

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On 7/25/20 9:16 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Jul 25, 2020, at 10:09, Salz, Rich 
> <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>   * As I’ve stated previously on this list, I view “folks” as a
>>     trigger, as it imposes passive-aggressive patronising distancing,
>>     and it’s certainly not as inclusionary as you might think. A word
>>     best avoided, in my view.
>>
>> This is an honest question: are you serious?  Are there others who 
>> feel this way?
>>
>
> I do.
>
> In Canada “folks” is a term used by conservatives only to appeal / 
> addres a
>  the “common people”.
>
> In Dutch, it reminds of volk, which reeks of nationalism.
>
> Using the term to me feels like talking down to a group that you have 
> power or control over.
>
> That said, I understand a lot of people do not see or use it that way, 
> and I can ignore it.

   "folks" being a trigger is a classic First World Problem!

   Do you run away in terror at the sight of a VW beatle? "Volkswagen it 
reeks of
nationalism! It's a Nazi car! Aaaaahhhhh!!!!"

   Dan.

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