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Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Mon, 27 July 2020 12:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
To: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
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From: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
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Dan, as far back as 2013, the IESG adopted, and the IETF accepted, a 
policy on anti-harrassment that recognizes that speech can be harmful.
It seems clear to me that the community disagrtees with your perspective 
on this.
And the community clearly has the right and responsibility to set 
behavioral standards for its members.

Yours,
Joel

On 7/27/2020 8:44 AM, Dan Harkins wrote:
> 
> On 7/27/20 4:43 AM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>> No Dan, I'm asking you to consider that your personal history might 
>> not be universal
> 
>    And I'm telling you that if you that the bar to compel speech is 
> considerably
> higher than rank assertions and fallacies.
>

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