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Re: USA dominion: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jvknet.com> Sat, 25 July 2020 14:35 UTC

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From: Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jvknet.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 10:35:00 -0400
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Subject: Re: USA dominion: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 10:09 AM Salz, Rich <rsalz=
40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

>
>    - As I’ve stated previously on this list, I view “folks” as a trigger,
>    as it imposes passive-aggressive patronizing distancing, and it’s certainly
>    not as exclusionary as you might think. A word best avoided, in my view.
>
>
>
> This is an honest question: are you serious?  Are there others who feel
> this way?
>

I suspect that we will wind up having discussions which cover so many
words/terms across too many domains with varying levels of acceptance by
people who may (or may not) be triggered.  This is my largest concern (that
we may not be able to contain the limits of the conversation).

My thoughts are - we will all do our best to consider others, and we should
be considerate of others if we don't agree with them (as
their experience and disposition may differ from ours).   Jon Postel comes
to mind.

regards,

Victor K

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