Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language - word list

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Mon, 10 August 2020 06:27 UTC

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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020 23:26:10 -0700
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, ietf@ietf.org
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language - word list
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Hi Joel,
At 10:51 AM 09-08-2020, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
>My reasoning on asking for a list of terms that are more often 
>problematic, and likely candidate replacements for them, is to help 
>the reviewers.
>I had not even realized that grandfathered has unfortunate 
>connotations and associations.

There are some potential issues which I only caught on reading a 
review from Mr Doty.

>I do not expect non-native speakers of English, much less non-native 
>speakers whose culture is very different from typical western 
>European and American culture, to easily be able to recognize what 
>the concern is.
>I would not label such a list "must be avoided", as that is clearly 
>too strong.  Particularly since almost all words have multiple uses.

Please see the acronym mentioned in the slides at 
http://r.elandsys.com/r/72380  The person who raised the issue is 
probably from China.  I am acquainted with a few non-native speakers 
of English.  I have no doubt that they would understand the concern quickly.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy