Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Mon, 27 July 2020 11:40 UTC

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 04:40:31 -0700
From: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>
Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
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On 7/27/20 4:00 AM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>> Everyone can be deterred but
>      if they are
>      not deterred by hard work, sacrifice, and delayed gratification then
>      they're not
>      going to be deferred by a mean word. That's the point. It beggars belief.
>
> There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, then are dreamt of in your philosophy.  You never know what will be the final straw for someone.
>
>      Go ahead, convince me. I'll wait.
>
> Walk a mile in someone else's shoes.  Accept that there are those who are deterred.  Oh well.

   I see. So actually any assertion is completely valid. Nothing can be 
contested
because "you'll never know" and "there are those".

   And based on this unfalsifiable assertion you are going to compel 
behavior?
No! That's not how it works.

   Dan.