Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Fri, 07 August 2020 15:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
From: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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"Call them "professionally wounded" or "snowflakes" if you want, but the road this leads down is toward a  senescent, obsolescent, irrelevant IETF.  People have better things to do with their time than engage with an organization that doesn't care about them."

I  don’t think it is the language we use in our documents or the language we use in our discussions that is the cause of the IETF becoming obsolescent or irrelevant. It is our inability to set aside  our technical religion and continually reexamine the fundamentals, together with  the imbalance in power and money between the service providers and the OTT providers which leads to lack of investment that has set us on that path.

Stewart