Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Tue, 28 July 2020 16:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
From: Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>
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> On Jul 28, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 09:35:45AM -0700, The IESG wrote:
>> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-knodel-terminology/
> 
> I'm surprised not to find there anything like a survey of RFCs, current
> I-Ds, and maybe even expired I-Ds, of problematic language.  Or any
> analysis of the prevalence of problematic language and trends in its
> use.  Did we use to have a problem that we now no longer have?  Do we
> still have a problem?  Is it getting better or worse?
> 
> Can we ask the author, and/or maybe the RPC, to perform such a survey?

I checked and the list I have online shows both items found in RFCs and those not found in RFCs but potentially useful (including providing the regexp I used to find the term).

I didn’t do a count for each example; it’s easy to find a single example but hard to verify a count against possible false positives.

Joe