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Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Tue, 28 July 2020 19:47 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
CC: "lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk>, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
Thread-Topic: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:47:42 +0000
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>   On reading the two opinion I could not reach any conclusion.

One says "they all do this"  One says "some do that."  So almost by definition, the one that says "some" has to be more correct. And in my view is more empathetic and assuming good intent.  Of course I am biased, because I wrote that one.

>    >Do you think I am condescending?

>    I don't think so.

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