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Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> Mon, 27 July 2020 14:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
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Salz, Rich wrote:

>>     And I'm saying it's not very sincere or effective to ban
>      "blacklist" leaving such terms as "black magic" and cultural
>      framework that darkness of black is somewhat evil which has
>      produced both terminologies.
> 
> Does that term appear in RFCs?  If so, then yes, we should neutralize it.

Do you mean "cultural framework that darkness of black is somewhat
evil which has produced both terminologies" is a term?

I'm afraid I don't think so.

							Masataka Ohta

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