Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Mon, 27 July 2020 14:46 UTC

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From: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:42:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
To: Carrick Bartle <cbartle891=40icloud.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
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+1

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:41 AM Carrick Bartle <cbartle891=
40icloud.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> I agree.
>
>
>
> > On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:02 AM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 27, 2020, at 09:10, Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> "harm" not found.
> >
> > Unfortunately, this thread has already harmed the IETF community. Not
> only by showing a lack of empathy to try and be more inclusive when the
> costs are low, but also by showing how toxic discussions can get at IETF.
> >
> > unfortunately, cultural change is very slow.
> >
> > Paul
>
>