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Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Mon, 27 July 2020 19:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
To: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>, ietf@ietf.org
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Ohta-san, please stop.
 From where I sit, we are only discussing I-Ds and RFCs here.  Not works  
of literature.  And we are only discussing future I-Ds and RFCs.  The  
question of whether works of literature should  
/could/would/shouldn't/couldn't be rewritten is not relevant.

Yours,
Joel

On 7/27/2020 12:53 PM, Masataka Ohta wrote:
> Eliot Lear wrote:
> 
>> but the right response is
>> research results that demonstrate that the language needs to be
>> change,
> 
> destroying Thriller, the Lord of the Rings and all the fantasies
> and FRPGs in the future?
> 
> That's impossible.
> 
> Instead, you should accept that "black" is somewhat evil/bad
> though it does not imply black skin or cloths are evil/bad.
> 
> For example, though rather a fantasy than reality, Ninja is
> famous to have worn black cloths. So what?
> 
>                          Masataka Ohta
>

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