Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Mon, 27 July 2020 11:00 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
Thread-Topic: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
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>Everyone can be deterred but 
    if they are
    not deterred by hard work, sacrifice, and delayed gratification then 
    they're not
    going to be deferred by a mean word. That's the point. It beggars belief.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, then are dreamt of in your philosophy.  You never know what will be the final straw for someone.

    Go ahead, convince me. I'll wait.

Walk a mile in someone else's shoes.  Accept that there are those who are deterred.  Oh well.