Re: RFC abbreviations list

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Sun, 26 July 2020 04:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: RFC abbreviations list
From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 06:26:00 +0200
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On 2020-07-26, at 04:32, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
> 
> that
> the abbreviation be well-known and immediately obvious to anyone
> with a significant Internet technical or operational background
> and experience.  

Hmm, I think the intersection between people knowing what RSVP-TE is, what JSON is, and what RSASSA-PSS is may be smaller than you think.  That bar is a bit high.  I would expect this to be limited to the target group for the specific RFC (which by the way in some cases isn’t “anyone with a significant Internet technical or operational background and experience”).

Grüße, Carsten