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Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug@acm.org> Sun, 09 August 2020 20:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
To: Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>
Cc: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>, Lloyd Wood <lloyd.wood=40yahoo.co.uk@dmarc.ietf.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>, "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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From: Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug@acm.org>
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On 8/9/20 1:01 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
> Either the term helps understanding or it hinders it. If you need to invoke word origins or dictionaries, you’re already indicating the term by itself isn’t helpful. 

Using our feelings, not our brains.  Got it.

> 
> Joe
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug@acm.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/9/20 12:23 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Really, asserting that "master secret"
>>>> is problematic is simply credibility-destroying.
>>>
>>> Besides your concern, how does one secret actively control another? 
>>
>> You are insisting that the only possible meaning of "master" is to control some[one|thing] else.  According to New Oxford American Dictionary Third edition, that's true when used it as a noun, but not when used as an adjective or a verb.
>>
>>>
>>> Or is it just that there is one root key from which others are derived?
>>>
>>> Ie why even bother defending a term that’s inaccurate to start?
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>

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