Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Carrick Bartle <cbartle891@icloud.com> Fri, 24 July 2020 06:12 UTC

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From: Carrick Bartle <cbartle891@icloud.com>
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Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 23:12:12 -0700
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To: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
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I think we can all agree that slavery is bad, right? So why should we even allude to it in technical documents?




> 
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 11:09 PM, Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote:
> 
> The IESG wrote:
> 
>> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-knodel-terminology/
> 
> US centric view of the draft as if only blacks were slaves
> is totally wrong only to make people in other part of the
> world or with knowledge on world history upset or angry.
> 
> For example, Christianity was banned in medieval Japan
> because Christians exported many Japanese as slaves.
> 
> For another example, in ancient Greece, many white people
> were enslaved.
> 
> As "slave" has long established meaning having nothing
> to do especially with blacks in recent (that is, for
> these 100 or 200 years) US, it is stupid to ban it.
> 
> Or, should we avoid talking on ancient Greece, because
> slavery was common?
> 
>                        Masataka Ohta
>