Re: USA dominion: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Sat, 25 July 2020 15:42 UTC

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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 11:42:32 -0400
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From: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
To: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
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Subject: Re: USA dominion: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2020, Kyle Rose wrote:

> The IETF does have an inclusion problem, but I suspect it has very little
> to do with problematic technical jargon and a lot more to do with the
> all-too-frequent bullying, mocking, and dismissal that seem to be standard
> operating procedure for a small but vocal minority of the community. This
> statement feels like a way for the IETF leadership to pay feel-good lip
> service to inclusion while not adequately addressing the behaviors that
> have actually driven away participants.

Finally, a comment with which I can completely agree, particularly being 
aware that my own interactions have sometimes been a bit dismissive.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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