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Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org> Fri, 07 August 2020 16:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 12:29:02 -0400
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> On Aug 7, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:
> 
>   The interesting thing is that in my off-list chats with the "in group" I
> was told that the harm is to segments of society by people who these "in
> group" members clearly were not part of. For example, there was a reference
> made by a white cis male to harm caused by statements made in the TERF wars.
> 
>   So I did not use the words "professionally wounded" or "snowflakes" but
> I have come up with another term: offense-by-proxy.

Isn't it possible that the people who might be offended or turned off by something aren't around to give you feedback, specifically b/c they were offended or turned off by those things?

Thanks,
Chris.

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